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		<description><![CDATA[Schism in Human Motivations There is fundamental difference between western society and the Indian one. Primarily it is that western society has been developed under monotheistic systems- be they the military state such as that of Roman Empire and other empires that claimed divine right to rule, with everyone owing allegience to one supreme ruler [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=incognitocomments.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12310077&amp;post=290&amp;subd=incognitocomments&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Schism in Human Motivations</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">There is fundamental difference between western society and the Indian one. Primarily it is that western society has been developed under monotheistic systems- be they the military state such as that of Roman Empire and other empires that claimed divine right to rule, with everyone owing allegience to one supreme ruler and dynasty, or in the form of monotheistic church, where everyone is sheep, and should follow their shepherd unquestioningly.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In India, on the other hand, there was no mono-way of living that everyone had to comply with. There were many <em>panchayat</em>s, many <em>janapada</em>s and at times many kingdoms that administered the land. Unlike in western society, here people were not expected to, nor made to, follow one particular way. Most importantly, people were not considered sheep to be led by a shepherd, many people realized themselves as <em>brahma</em>, and people engaged in pursuits that helped actualize <em>karma</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">purushartha</span></strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em>bharatiya samskriti</em> recognizes four <em>purushartha</em>s &#8211; <em>dharma</em>, <em>artha</em>, <em>kama</em>, <em>moksha</em>, that motivate individuals based on their <em>varna</em>- expression of inherent motivation.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Depending on the <em>varna</em>, that again depends on the proportion of <em>guna</em>s- <em>sattva</em>, <em>rajo</em>, <em>tamo</em>, individual&#8217;s motivation changes.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The variation in the <em>guna</em>s is more a function of time, as well as <em>samskara</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em>atman</em> takes birth, extingushes <em>karma samskara</em> in pursuits suited for the purpose, sometimes accrues more, to be exhausted later, sometimes having exhausted <em>karma</em> attains <em>moksha</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Thus in Indian context, there is no hierarchy. A common man may have exhausted <em>karma</em> and may be a <em>mumukshu</em>, as in the case of Raikva, mentioned in <em>chandogya upanishad</em>. A <em>brahmana</em>, learned in <em>veda</em> and having attained high spiritual insights, may yet accrue <em>karma samskara</em>, as in the case of Ravana, when he abducted <em>Sita devi</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Maslow&#8217;s Hierarchy of Needs</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Abraham Maslow, based on his study of western society, proposed  a <a title="Maslow's Theory" href="http://www.abraham-maslow.com/m_motivation/Theory_of_Human_Motivation.asp" target="_blank">Theory of Human Motivation </a>based on a <a title="Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs" href="http://www.abraham-maslow.com/m_motivation/Hierarchy_of_Needs.asp" target="_blank">Hierarchy of Needs</a>. Maslow&#8217;s theory, though finding relevance  in the context of an oppressive society, does not have relevance in a <em>dharmik</em> society.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The primary motivator in Maslow&#8217;s Hierarchy of needs, Physiological needs- food, air, water, sleep, are available in Nature. In normal circumstances, these needs are automatically met.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The Safety need requirement arise only when there is <em>adharmikata</em>, when aggrandizing people expropriate from others. In <em>dharmik</em> society, such needs are also automatically satisfied as conscious <em>kshatriya</em>s uphold <em>dharma</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Social needs are also automatically satisfied in a society that values family and extended family including that of animals and environment, as in the case of <em>bharatiya samaj</em>.<br />
It is when people are made to consider themselves as individual units limited to within their physical bodies and its immediate needs, that the resulting emaciated sense of self seeks compensation by way of social distractions.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Engaged in pursuits leading to <em>atma sakshatkara</em>, recognizing physical body as temporary vessel for purpose of exhausting <em>karma</em>, <em>dharmik</em> people do not seek recognition, attention, or applause. They engage in <em>nishkama karma</em>.<br />
It is when people are made to consider themselevs as selfish individualistic entities and treated as automations that the resultant lack of self-esteem drives them to seek it outside.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In <em>bharatiya samaj</em>, the &#8216;Self-actualization&#8217; needs- &#8216;Truth, Justice, Wisdom and Meaning&#8217;, are also automatically experienced.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Theories in Context</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">A person, using color, canvas and brush, produces a painting, should not expect others using the same implements to produce the same painting. Skill, temperament, talent, creativity and motivations lead individuals to produce unique paintings. Societies, based on their value systems, create unique realities. Theories developed based on realities created by one society are inapplicable on others.<br />
Western theories find relevance only in the self-aggrandizing <em>adharmik</em> environment of western society.<br />
In the real world of <em>dharma</em>, western society, their selfish narrow outlook, their systems of rapacious exploitation and resulting theories do not have relevance.<br />
Like, the anxieties experienced during a nightmare do not have relevance upon waking up.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">India&#8217;s current situation, of more than 70% people living in material poverty, is caused by the implementation of western exploitative systems in society for the past millennium.<br />
The solution is simply in removing the exploitative structures.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In most cases Nature heals when the injury causing foreign object is removed from the body. In India&#8217;s case, the western structures and systems of exploitation that mughals and british imposed and continued with by current rulers.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em>bharatiya samskriti</em> and <em>dharma</em> have the vitality to rejuvenate and re-establish itself if each of the aggrandizing western structures are identified and removed.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Instead, if we choose to live the nightmare, we will experience new anxieties and continue sweating, fabricating fancy theories that have just as much endurance as the nightmare itself.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[World The world and life is a medium for actualization of karma. rishis realized that the world, its perception, entire creation, is brahma. and realized themselves as brahma. Perception The perceptions of a person, the situation as s/he perceives facilitate realization, and thereby, dissolution of samskara. rishis realized that the perceptions, the experiences, are manifestations, of and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=incognitocomments.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12310077&amp;post=293&amp;subd=incognitocomments&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">World</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The world and life is a medium for actualization of <em>karma</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em>rishi</em>s realized that the world, its perception, entire creation, is <em>brahma</em>. and realized themselves as <em>brahma</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Perception</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The perceptions of a person, the situation as s/he perceives facilitate realization, and thereby, dissolution of <em>samskara.</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em>rishi</em>s realized that the perceptions, the experiences, are manifestations, of and by <em>brahma</em>, manifesting and experiencing itself.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">What is percepted, experienced, are drawings made by the perceiver, <em>brahma</em>, on the canvas of world, that is projection of itself.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">What one perceives is individual to the person, though may be similar to that of another.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Words of Wisdom</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The wisdom one finds in certain words are realization of wisdom within, the words serving as mere canvas upon which the wisdom is drawn by the person.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">tat tvam asi</span></em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em>rishi</em>s realizing the perceived, the medium that facilitated the perception, and the perceiver to be the same, said- <em>tat tvam asi</em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 27 Jul 10, newspapers reported- Cong MP loses seat over fake SC claim. Excerpts- &#8220;The Kerala high court has disqualified AICC secretary Kodikunnil Suresh from the membership of Lok Sabha for producing a fake caste certificate. Justice M Shashidharan Nambiar held that he was not qualified to contest the Mavelikara seat. The court found [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=incognitocomments.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12310077&amp;post=251&amp;subd=incognitocomments&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">On 27 Jul 10, newspapers reported- <a title="MP disqualified" href="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/Cong-MP-loses-seat-over-fake-SC-claim/articleshow/6221433.cms" target="_blank"><strong>Cong MP loses seat over fake SC claim</strong></a>. Excerpts-</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;The Kerala high court has disqualified AICC secretary Kodikunnil Suresh from the membership of Lok Sabha for producing a fake caste certificate.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Justice M Shashidharan Nambiar held that he was not qualified to contest the Mavelikara seat. The court found that there were conflicting statements made by Mr Suresh about his caste status. According to school records, the MP is a converted Christian and was not entitled to the benefit of being a Scheduled Caste member.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Mr Suresh told reporters in Delhi that his school certificate had mentioned his caste was SC and religion Christian. “This was a mistake committed by his parents,” he claimed <strong>and said that he had “rectified” it by making a gazette notification about his status as a member of the Scheduled Caste</strong>. (emphasis added)</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">The court found that Suresh had produced contradictory caste certificates from tehsildars of Kottarakara and Nedumangad. The court refused to accept a certificate dated October 25, 1979, that Suresh had embraced Hinduism as per Sudhi certificate by Kerala Hindu Mission. It said evidence has been established that the mission president had been issuing certificates after receiving donations and fees.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Conversion</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Conversion to christianity or islam is supposed to liberate people from &#8216;evil caste system&#8217;- an alleged feature of &#8216;hinduism&#8217;.<br />
With this premise, reservation policy of government is framed to alleviate &#8216;suffering&#8217; of those reeling under the said caste system of &#8216;hinduism&#8217;.<br />
&#8216;Lower caste hindus&#8217; are categorised &#8216;scheduled caste&#8217; and given reservation benefit. Those who convert, get &#8216;liberated&#8217; from &#8216;caste-ridden hinduism&#8217;; are not entitled for reservation benefit since they do not suffer &#8216;caste discrimination&#8217; in their new religions.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Corruption</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The news report reveal corruption of-</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"> 1. Mr Suresh, who contested <strong>seven</strong> times from reserved constituencies using fake caste certificates</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">2. Election Commission of India that allowed him to do so.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">3. Congress party that nominated him as candidate seven times <strong>and</strong> made him AICC General Secretary.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">4. People who knew this duplicity, yet chose not to expose it.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">5. The Tehsildars who gave fake certificates.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">6. The mission president of Kerala Hindu Mission who &#8216;converted&#8217; Mr Suresh on paper.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Trending</span></strong> </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Shri Bharat Nair, after reading <a title="Gazette 2010" href="http://www.egazette.kerala.gov.in/pdf/2010/25/part_04/change_name.pdf" target="_blank">Gazette Notifications</a> issued by <a title="Kerala Gazette" href="http://www.egazette.kerala.gov.in/latest_gazette.htm" target="_blank">Kerala State Govt </a> opines-</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;Trivandrum and areas south of it are seeing a &#8216;new religious&#8217; phenomenon. A lot of people are advertising in gazettes about their conversion to &#8216;Hindu religion&#8217;. Don&#8217;t be surprised to know that at least 75% of these type of persons belong to either Cheramar Christian or Sambava Christian.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">A few of those notifications from the gazette of 22 June 2010 (emphasis added)- </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;"> NOTIFICATION<br />
It is hereby notified for the information of all concerned authorities and the public that I, Sarojam, J., Vayalinkara Puthen Veedu, Thembamuttam, Balaramapuram, Rassalpuram P. O., Neyyattinkara Taluk, <strong>Thiruvananthapuram</strong> District, Pin-695 501, holder of S. S. L. C. Book No. D 636312 with Register No. 460012 of 1987 March, have <strong>embraced Hinduism</strong> from Christian Cheramar Community as per Suddhi Certificate No. 21160/10 dated 10-5-2010 issued from <strong>Aryasamaj,</strong> Thiruvananthapuram with the same name. <strong>Hereafter I will be a member of Hindu Cheramar Community</strong>. This change will come into effect in all records related to me.<br />
Balaramapuram,<br />
1-6-2010.                           SAROJAM, J.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;">NOTIFICATION<br />
It is hereby notified for the information of all concerned authorities and the public that I, Anjali, G., Athira Bhavan, House No. 508, Thazhaninna, Chavady, Pulluvila P. O., Neyyattinkara Taluk, <strong>Thiruvananthapuram</strong> District, Pin-695 526, holder of S.S.L.C. No. G 257915 with Register No.101783 of March 2007, have <strong>embraced Hinduism</strong> from Christian Sambavar Community as per Suddhi Certificate No. 115173 dated 4-6-2010 issued from <strong>Kerala Hindumission,</strong> Thiruvananthapuram with the same name. <strong>Hereafter I will be a member of Hindu</strong> <strong>Sambavar Community</strong>. This change will come into effect in all records related to me.<br />
Pulluvila,<br />
10-6-2010.                      ANJALI, G.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;"> NOTIFICATION<br />
It is hereby notified for the information of all concerned authorities and the public that I, Thomas Sevi, Kattuparambil Veedu, Kadasikadavu, Pampupara P. O., Udumbanchola Taluk, Anakkara Village, <strong>Idukki District</strong>, Pin-685 551, holder of S.S.L.C. No. C-366789 with Register No. 648119 of March 2002, also known as Kannan Sevi in the Ration Card No. 1630074195 issued by the Taluk Supply Officer, Udumbanchola, is one and the same person. I have <strong>embraced Hinduism</strong> from Christian Sambavar Community as per Suddhi Certificate No. 20790/09 dated 11-11-2009 issued from <strong>Aryasamaj,</strong> Thiruvananthapuram, with a new name Kannan, K. S. and will sign accordingly. <strong>Hereafter I will be a member of</strong> <strong>Hindu Sambavar Community</strong>. This change will come into effect in all records related to me.<br />
Kadasikadavu,<br />
21-5-2010.                      THOMAS SEVI.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;">NOTIFICATION<br />
It is hereby notified for the information of all authorities concerned and the public that I, Bijumon, P. C., Biju Bhavan, Kainakary (East) P.O., <strong>Alappuzha District</strong>, holder of S. S. L. C. Book No. C. 205763 with Register No. 299661 of March 1991, have <strong>embraced Hinduism</strong> from Cheramar Christian Community with the same name as per the Sudhi Certificate No. 21151/10 dated 4-5-2010 issued from <strong>Arya Samaj,</strong> Thiruvananthapuram. <strong>Hereafter I will be a member of Hindu Cheramar Community</strong>. This change will come into effect in all records related to me.<br />
Kainakary,<br />
11-5-2010.                      BIJUMON, P. C.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;">NOTIFICATION<br />
It is hereby notified for the information of all authorities concerned and the public that I, Jayanthi, K. K., Kottapurathu (H), Vadakara P. O., Velloor Village, Vaikom Taluk, <strong>Kottayam District</strong>, Pin-686 605, holder of S.S.L.C. No. 410852 with Register No. 467169 of March 1999 and in the Ration Card Number 1525063661 issued from Taluk Supply Office, Vaikom, have <strong>embraced Hinduism</strong> from Christian Cheramar Community as per Suddhi Certificate Ref. No. 21120/10 dated 8-4-2010 issued from the <strong>Aryasamaj,</strong> Thiruvananthapuram with the same name. <strong>Hereafter I will be a member of</strong> <strong>Hindu Cheramar Community</strong>. This change will come into effect in all records related to me.<br />
Kottayam,<br />
6-5-2010.                       JAYANTHI, K. K. </p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Notifications such as these are rampant in past gazettes available in the <a title="Gazette Archives" href="http://www.egazette.kerala.gov.in/archive.htm" target="_blank">archives of Kerala Gazette website</a>. </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">There are other notifications too, wherein christians, who are supposed to be caste-free, claim themselves to belong to specific lower caste such as Cheramar or Sambhavar. This appears to be a preparatory step towards converting to &#8216;hinduism&#8217; and later gazette notifications as seen above. Sample-</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;">NOTIFICATION<br />
I, John Philip, Pariyarathil House, Kottoor P. O., Kaviyoor, Thiruvalla, Pathanamthitta District, Pin-689 582, do hereby notify for the information of all concerned authorities and the public that my minor son Jefin Philipson P. John whose Community is wrongly entered as <strong>Christian Pentacost</strong> in his S. S. L. C. No. H 362408 with Register No. 457630 of March 2008 is corrected as <strong>Christian Cheramar</strong>, vide Certificate No. B12/9449/08/K. Dis. dated 19-1-2010, issued by the Tahsildar, Taluk Office, Thiruvalla. This correction will come into effect in all records related to him.<br />
Kottoor,<br />
7-6-2010.                     JOHN PHILIP.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong> </strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Modus Operandi</span></strong> </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">As seen in the Suresh episode, and gazette notifications, modus operandi is-</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">1.  The supposedly &#8220;caste-free&#8221; christian claims to be Cheramar/ Sambhavar/ similar &#8216;lower caste&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">2.  Obtain certificate of conversion to Hinduism from Arya Samaj or Kerala Hindu Mission.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">3.  Issue gazette notification claiming to belong to Cheramar/ Sambhavar/ Pulaya/ similar &#8216;scheduled caste&#8217; hindu community.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">4.  Obtain caste certificate from tehsildar. Suresh got one tehsildar to certify him as Cheramar, and another to certify him as Pulaya.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">5.  Enjoy reservation benefit.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Caste- out of the bag</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">That supposedly caste-free christians claim to be &#8216;lower caste&#8217;, &#8216;convert&#8217; to hinduism, re-affirm their status as lower caste through gazette notifications, exposes hollowness of allegation about &#8216;evil caste system&#8217; of hindusim. It is revealed as due to contemporary political structure, though maliciously attributed to tradition by westerners and their desi sepoys in academe.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">A similar trend is seen in the case of Gujjars in Rajasthan who claim status of scheduled tribe, which pits them against Meenas.<br />
In Khandhmal, Orissa, christians who converted from Pana scheduled caste community seek status of scheduled tribe, depriving Kandhas, who are the real tribal community. In collusion with maoists, <a onclick="return mugicPopWin(this,event);" oncontextmenu="mugicRightClick(this);" title="Download book free" href="http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/orissa-in-the-crossfire-kandhamal-burning/6046401" target="_blank">they killed Swami Lakshmananda who worked for upliftment of Kandhas</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">That society remains largely unconcerned about these developments reveal depth of its depravity and indolence, caused by indoctrination through western education system and media.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Rise of the avaricious</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">People who convert to become christians when evangelical missionaries offer material benefits and then convert back to take advantage of government rules, are duplicitous. When such people gain positions of power, taking advantage of reservation policy, society is severely affected.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Conversion ?</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Such incidents also point to the flimsiness of converting people to hindu fold. The large number of &#8217;conversions&#8217; to hindu community &#8216;effected&#8217; by Arya Samaj and Kerala Hindu Mission, <a title="Gazette 2010" href="http://www.egazette.kerala.gov.in/pdf/2010/25/part_04/change_name.pdf" target="_blank">evidenced in the gazette</a>, betray the meaninglessness of the process, which is being taken advantage of by the greedy.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">It also throws up the question- are conversions meaningful ?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Inconvertible</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em>bharatiya samskriti</em> view people as <em>atman</em>, unqualified, eternal, occupying temporary physical bodies. Can the &#8216;unqualified&#8217;, unquantifiable, be converted ?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[  Blogger Anuraag Sanghi identifies the reason for the rise of British Empire in India -  the large number of indians recruited as sepoys. &#8220;The constant warfare against Indian polity in India was essential for imperial English objectives. It was the large size of the Colonial Indian Army, consisting of Indian sepoys that was behind the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=incognitocomments.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12310077&amp;post=221&amp;subd=incognitocomments&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Blogger Anuraag Sanghi identifies the reason for the <a title="Rise of British Empire" href="http://2ndlook.wordpress.com/2010/07/06/rise-of-the-british-empire-a-2ndlook/" target="_blank">rise of British Empire in India </a>-  the large number of indians recruited as sepoys.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>The constant warfare against Indian polity in India was essential for imperial English objectives. It was the large size of the Colonial Indian Army, consisting of Indian sepoys that was behind the might of the British Empire</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Company sepoy&#8217;s pay was several times that of a specialist worker. These sepoys were not only paid better compared to the soldiers of native kings, the british also made timely payments.  These factors led to many people joining up in the British Colonial Army.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Where did all that money come from ?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Sanghi identifies the source of British financial capital-</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;">1.  Piracy sanctioned by the British crown that brought wealth without having to produce it</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;">2.  Slavery that freed up money that would have otherwise had to be paid to workers</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;">3.  Monopolising the trade of shipping, gun powder, textiles etc.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;">4.  Wealth looted from colonies</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;">5.  Indentured labour that sustained low production cost </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:60px;"> </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">&#8216;Marginally Ethical People&#8217;</span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>To marginally ethical people, without recourse to loot, piracy and slavery under the Indic values system of shubh labh, ‘Desert Bloc’ ethics were an ‘attractive’ alternative. Economically affected by shrinkage in Indian exports due to slave raids and piracy, land grab by the colonial Indian State, some took the easy way of embracing English practices and values – giving the British Empire a leg up in India.&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;&#8230;<em>employment and service with slave empires and kingdoms was equated with standard commerce</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Today</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Today, a large number of people are employed by what are called MNCs, that are mostly West based. Many Indians work abroad. Large number of families depend on money sent by people working abroad. In India itself, being employed by a foreign firm, or a firm working for foreign clients, is considered more respectworthy. The embracing of Western practices and values(or lack of it) have increased multi fold. The british created education system is one of the primary causative factor for this. The continuation with british created institutions for governance have further contributed to pervasiveness of western influence over society. Indian educational institutions are essentially producing skilled white collared labourers for western companies at cheap rates. This helps sustain the western progress today, as it once did the British Empire. Like in the colonial times, those who collaborate with the West today are given higher paying positions to serve them better, based on the riches gathered from (a) colonial era loot leftovers, (b) monopolising practices,  (c) new markets and land resources captured through military and coercive means and (d) manipulating currencies.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Military means of Imperialism in the past being replaced by economic means today. </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Some <a title="Native thoughts of Senthil Raja " href="http://twitter.com/nativethoughts" target="_blank">Tweets by Senthil Raja  </a>reflect the deleterious effects-</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Whether known or unknown, we convey the message white collar job is superior and blue collar job is inferior.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">In most cases, are we not justifying things based on personal gains ? Even the high salary we get is unjust&#8230;</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">&#8230; unjust in the sense, that it is creating extreme disparities in the society. Isn&#8217;t our salary based on Dollar rate ?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Corporates lobby government if dollar rates comes down, instead of realigning itself.. yet they speak of free market.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">A software company serving indian clients is taxed, but tax free if its 100% export oriented.. what kind of logic it is?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Philanthropy is often projected as Social responsibility..</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">If I am not mistaken, I often feel, that we (IT professionals) do charity more out of guilt feeling..</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">I am saying this kind of offshore(outsource ?) model itself is unjust.. a small section of IT people, cornering large amount of resources</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">When you happen to travel by an auto or meet a common man, just ask him.. he will tell how insecure his life has become..</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Escalated salary, escalated buying power.. escalated prices.. escalated demand.. escalated exploitation of resources..</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">The escalation of prices are so severe, that even an entry level IT guy finds it tought to meet expenses. What about poor?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">A double bedroom house rent was 3000 5 years ago in Chennai.. now it is more than 6000.. even middle class cant survive</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">What&#8217;s the reason? because of high salary of few lakh people, that more than 1 crore people of Chennai suffering..</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">How did this high salary become possible.. because of high dollar rate.. where indigenous companies became severly disadvantaged</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">A software concern serving indian client could not compete with a software concern serving foreign clients, in giving salaries.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Finally, the revenue generated is actually collapsing our society and economy.. we will feel the consequence within few yrs</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">When a person accepts employment with another, that person subconsciously also accepts the &#8216;value system&#8217; or lack thereof of the employer. The character of the person is then subconsciously transformed. The education system designed for the purpose of turning people into useful employees for empires also inculcates the &#8216;values&#8217;, or its lack, of the empire builders, which is then reinforced during employment. Such employees may later establish their own &#8216;value-less&#8217; empires, as happened in India that went under the Congress Empire in 1947. Congress party was formed by britishers after the indian independence war of 1857, to pre-empt and subvert violent resistance against british rule. Later they culled that organisation of patriotic and nationalistic indians who had joined it, enlisted it in handling lower level administration prior to WWII, and then handed over power to these tutored employees, who have been managing the outpost of the empire with all the institutional structures established by the british intact, creating generations of indians, deracinated and useful employees for western empire.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">The Worm turned</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Meanwhile, Sanghi observes-</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>It took nearly 200 years for the The Indian sepoy to decide that he was no longer willing to be a loyal soldier of the Company Bahadur. And the British Raj crumbled</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The British Raj crumbled, but they had prepared for just this eventuality way back in 1885, when they formed the Congress Party. They transferred power to their tutored employees and ensured that this country will continue to serve their interests. It did, and have been doing that since then, often at a cost to its own interests- parts of Kashmir, Aksai Chin, were given away, Millions of Indians have been killed in violent incidents that continue unabated, Millions have starved to death, demographics is being changed by western cults of christianity, islam, communism and capitalism, yet the dynasty of tutored employees continue to serve western, and their own selfish interest, disinterested in taking effective action to protect the nation or its people. </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>The day the worm turned, the British Raj ended. On February 18th 1946, the Indian Naval force, then the Royal Indian Navy raised the flag of independence. Colonial history calls it the Naval Ratings Mutiny – on February 18th 1946. Within 1 week, Britain decided to evacuate from India</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In an economic sense such a decison means serving an alternate economic model. One that nurtures ethics and values. A system like the one that made Bharat the economic powerhouse of the world for millenniums prior to 1800 CE(Sanghi identifies it as based on the concept of <em>shubh labh</em>), yet was a part of the civilization that produced unparalleled fine arts, science, spiritual attainment and value system in society.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">It requires re-discovering our traditional values and heritage, discarding the western value-less systems, re-building our systems and institutions rooted in sustainable values.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">This requires courage, wisdom, conviction and strength. Do Indians have it in them ? They do, as do all beings.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Will Indians discover it ?  Will the worm turn, this time to dislodge the foot on its back ?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shri Senthil Raja commented in a previous blog- &#8220;I think, we should not waste our time in explaining to those who say “Its individual wish to marry any one”..        &#8230;&#8230;. Instead of explaining things to them, which their closed mindset will never open up, we have to restrict ourselves in exposing their double standard, and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=incognitocomments.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12310077&amp;post=205&amp;subd=incognitocomments&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">Shri <a href="http://psenthilraja.wordpress.com/">Senthil Raja</a> commented in a <a title="khap" href="http://incognitocomments.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/khap/#comment-103" target="_blank">previous blog</a>-</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">&#8220;I think, we should not waste our time in explaining to those who say “Its individual wish to marry any one”..        &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">Instead of explaining things to them, which their closed mindset will never open up, we have to restrict ourselves in exposing their double standard, and moral hollowness…&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"> This blog is about what he refers to as &#8220;closed mindsets&#8221;, that may sometimes appear as &#8220;will never open up&#8221;.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">When we plant a mango seed, it will grow up to produce mango fruit.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The seeds of thought that we plant in our mind grow up to produce their characteristic fruit.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">If we plant propaganda material found in yellow rags masquerading as english language newspapers and TV news channels, our minds will produce fruits of that nature.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Take the case of the <a href="http://shailsnest.com/wp/life/the-blacks-and-the-whites-with-grays-thrown-in/comment-page-1/">blogger <strong>here</strong></a>, who, having been schooled in a convent run by nuns, has apparently internalized the western colonialist propaganda of people of dark color being ignorant, less ‘developed’, lower in the &#8216;evolutionary&#8217; ladder, which lie incidentally drives the skin-cream industry all over the world. So, when she blogs on the role of prejudices and narrow mindsets in shaping societal attitudes, she inadvertently reflects her internalized prejudices. Herself a colored person in western nomenclature, she portrays darker people as having narrower mindset and discriminatory attitude towards people of lighter shade in the exact pattern that colonialists used to caricature dark colored natives as ‘primitive’, ‘narrow minded’, ‘ignorant of world’ etc., and themselves, white people, being more ‘evolved’, ‘modern’ and ‘liberal’, whose burden it is to emancipate their darker brethren- which propaganda was then used to enslave, genocide, plunder and displace native people from Africa, America, Australia and Asia. She further displays western propensity to stifle criticisms and dissenting voices, by refusing to post a comment critical of that article, given below -</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">&#8220;Is it necessary to caricature blacks as evil &#8230; when it is they who have been plundered, enslaved, genocided and put in reservations by the whites&#8230;?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;"> Indians traditionally respected black &#8216;<em>krishna </em><em>varna</em>&#8216; more than white. eg., Sri Krishna, Sri Rama, Shiva bhagavan, Kali Ma, Draupadi, Arjuna, Krishna Dvaipayana (Vyasa) etc.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">This article seems to follow the path of imperialists, that of demonizing people of color, caricaturing them as primitive, barbaric, childish, not evolved etc&#8230;</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;">Disappointing, to put it mildly.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;text-align:justify;"><em>namaste</em>&#8220;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"> </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Thus, the ideas and thoughts that we expose ourselves to, influences and shapes our thinking in subconscious ways- even in those cases when it is done with the purpose of countering those very ideas, as <a title="Church Effect" href="http://incognitocomments.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/self-governance/" target="_blank"><strong>this</strong> blog </a>reveals.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">However, such displayed behavior does not necessarily mean that the people’s minds are closed. Poisonous trees growing in a field does not mean that the field is capable of producing fruits of that nature only.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">It only means that some de-weeding is required, followed by planting of good seeds.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Still, planting of good seeds by itself does not guarantee that the harvest would be automatically good. Ravana&#8217;s mind was seeded with good thoughts by his father Vishravas, who taught him <em>veda</em> and <em>shastra</em>. Yet, the seeds of selfish aggrandizement inherent in Ravana outgrew and displaced those of the good thoughts planted by his father. A more recent example is that of Rajasekara a.k.a Nithyananda, who despite being exposed to <em>veda shastras</em> allowed selfish duplicitous thoughts to overtake sense of righteousness.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Due to <em>samskara</em> of our past, seeds of weed may be present in our minds, which germinate at times. Also, seeds of weed dispersed by wind may land from neighboring fields.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">So the fields of our minds needs to be kept weed-free through constant vigilance, planted with healthy seeds after turning over the hardened crust of set prejudices, regularly irrigated by attention and insights and well exposed to rays of illuminating consciousness, in order to produce edible crop.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Our ancestors did so and produced the best of the crops as <em>veda</em> <em>darshana shastra</em> <em>purana</em>, which seeds are still with us. Do we prove to be true sons and daughters of the soil, worthy descendents of our ancestors, or bonded farmers who buy GM seeds from westerners, destroy ecology, perennially depending on westerners for future seeds of thought ?</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Notes</span>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">1. Certain fields have been planted with poisonous plants so heavily that the numerous seeds of poisonous weeds present in that soil make any decent cultivation very tough proposition. It may be advisable, in such cases, to leave the field barren for some period, regularly uprooting the germinating weeds, until the seeds present in the soil get depleted before planting new crops. For faster results it may be necessary to burn that soil with the fire of enquiry, or waterlog it by immersing it in deluge of knowledge, or upturn that soil, burying it so deep that the seeds cannot germinate, by undergoing life transforming experience.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">2. Certain regions are not conducive to certain crops. While <em>bharatam</em> has very fertile fields that can grow most plant varieties, certain parts of the world are not so and it is almost futile to try and grow similar varieties of plants in those fields. Even if they are grown forcefully, with much effort, its produce won’t taste the same, though, limited success may be had in controlled environments using fabricated glasshouses.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">3. It is also meaningful to remember that the seeds of thoughts- both good and bad, are originally not inherent to the soil, that these are introduced separately, which then grow up and produce their respective fruits; that the original nature of the soil is seedless, plant less, still, dormant, pervaded by rays of illuminating consciousness, moistened by insightful attention. <em>That</em> original nature, realized our ancestors, <em>tat twam asi</em>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Madhu Kishwar wrote an article titled &#8220;A Question of Balance&#8221; regarding khap panchayat. Blogger Indyeah critiques it here . While this blog is an analysis of Indyeah&#8217;s article, it is actually the mindset that produces such articles that is attempted to be criticized here. Quoting from Madhu Kishwar&#8217;s article- &#8220;No civilised society can sanction murder simply because [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=incognitocomments.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12310077&amp;post=154&amp;subd=incognitocomments&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">Madhu Kishwar wrote an article titled &#8220;<a title="Madhu Kiswar on Khap" href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Home/Opinion/Edit-Page/A-Question-Of-Balance/articleshow/5941357.cms" target="_blank">A Question of Balance</a>&#8221; regarding <em>khap panchayat</em>. Blogger Indyeah critiques it <a title="Indyeah" href="http://indyeahforever.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/a-question-of-balance-really/" target="_blank">here</a> . While this blog is an analysis of Indyeah&#8217;s article, it is actually the mindset that produces such articles that is attempted to be criticized here.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Quoting from Madhu Kishwar&#8217;s article- &#8220;<em>No civilised society can sanction murder simply because some people claim a particular person brought them “dishonour”. Likewise, no civilised society can allow a small minority of self-appointed socia</em>l<em> reformers to decide arbitrarily which identities have sanctity and which must be banned out of existence through statist coercion</em>&#8220;. Indyeah asks-</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"> &#8221;<em>When she(</em>Madhu Kishwar<em>) writes about NOT allowing a small minority of self appointed reformers to decide arbitrarily as to which identities should have sanctity , does she then also extend this reasoning to cover France’s burqa ban <strong>that she supports wholeheartedly</strong></em>? <em>Why no emphasis by her on first finding a consensus among the Muslim society there? It was okay to have a small minority of self appointed reformers to decide on the burqa ban in France?&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The burkha is worn publicly in society and not just in muslim areas or just within muslim households, so it is a society matter. Banning it in France is the decision of that society. They have a right to decide how their society should be. Similarly <em>khap</em> also have a right to decide how their society or community should be. Madhu Kishwar is consistent on that point.   </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><em>&#8220;Pull the Muslim women out of the medieval age she says or else they will be stuck there forever. Okay. One accepts she has a point there. (Though the word BAN is like this bone stuck in my throat). <em>But why an about turn by her on the khap issue in India then? Why no calls for ‘pulling the community out of medieval age</em>?&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">A possible reason why the word &#8216;ban&#8217; sticks in throat may be that in these times of political correctness bold actions and words are intimidatory to a PC, for whom words such as that are to be used only when the &#8216;minority&#8217; community demands that it be used, to assuage its &#8216;hurt sentiments&#8217; caused by some book or cartoon, not otherwise.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The blogger seems to have accepted that <em>khaps</em> are &#8216;medieval&#8217;, which means it is to be taken as &#8216;primitive&#8217;, &#8216;abhorrent&#8217;, and with an expiry date well in the past. In &#8216;modern&#8217; &#8216;progressive&#8217; society, to which that blogger belongs,  it is the accepted norm that anything pasted with the label &#8216;medieval&#8217; is to be condemned. She is following the general norm of this society- that of &#8216;calling a dog mad and killing it&#8217;. But in this blind attempt to label apples as oranges she misses the point that <em>khap</em> is a democratic system that works on consensus among its constituents, not something that claims legitimacy on the basis of what is claimed to be the &#8216;words of a god&#8217; or prophet. It is a democratic system for governance at local level.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Wikipedia says about <a title="Functioning of Khap" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khap" target="_blank">functioning of <em>khap</em></a>- &#8220;The <em>Khap</em> is a system of social administration and organization in the republics of Northwestern Indian states such as Haryana, Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh since ancient times. <em>Khap</em> is a term for a social-political grouping and used in a geographical sense. Other parallel terms are <em>Pal</em>, <em>Ganasangha</em>, <em>Janapada</em> or republic. The concept of <em>Khap</em> is ancient; written references are found as far back as <em>Rig Vedic</em> times. &#8230; The <em>Panchayat</em> system is territorial and highly democratic. Every village has its own <em>Panchayat</em>. &#8230; All decisions are taken after open-hearing, full and voluntary expression of views and consensus vote. A number of villages grouped themselves into a <em>Gohand</em>, <em>gohand</em> actually means neighboring villages, a number of <em>Gohands</em> form a ‘<em>Khap’</em>&#8220;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Steve Muhlberger, Associate Professor of History, Nipissing University writes about <a title="Democracy in Ancient India" href="http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/history/MUHLBERGER/HISTDEM/INDIADEM.HTM" target="_blank">Democracy in Ancient India</a>- &#8220;The experience of Ancient India with republicanism, if better known, would by itself make democracy seem less of a freakish development, and help dispel the common idea that the very concept of democracy is specifically &#8220;Western&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">There is a major difference between respecting democratic traditions that foster self-sufficiency, as in the case of <em>khap</em>, and imposing dehumanising edicts claimed to be coming from &#8216;god&#8217;, as in the case of certain islamic injunctions. The blogger fails to discern this.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>A ban in France would have been fine HAD the Muslim population, specifically the Muslim WOMEN been asked . Had there been a poll. The democratic consensus that Ms Kishwar writes about here.&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The decision in France is taken by a democratically elected government. The blogger forgets that fact in her eagerness to bestow upon &#8216;muslim population&#8217; the decisive rights on what society should accept.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">This is also a pointer to the the mindset created in india by the &#8216;intellectuals&#8217; and &#8216;academicians&#8217;. A mindset that wants muslims to have first claim on nation&#8217;s resources, unmindful that this was the policy of &#8216;medieval&#8217; muslim marauders! The mindset that causes a PM to lose his sleep thinking about the plight of the family of one muslim suspected for ties to Glasgow bomber, the same PM apparently does not  lose any sleep over the plight of the families of  thousands of Indian soldiers and paramilitary being mudered in the hands of muslim terrorists in Kashmir.<br />
This mindset is what Babar and Aurangazeb imposed, that muslims are superior, and the rest, inferior &#8216;dhimmis&#8217;, who should  pay jizya. The &#8216;intellectuals&#8217; of today apparently do not recognize their own such ‘medieval’ mindset!</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>Seems like the kindergarten example of &#8216;If you wont agree to the rules, even I won’t&#8217;. ‘Other’ religious minorities show no inclination to be part of a consensus on UCC, writes Madhu Kishwar and therefore Ms Kishwar argues even Khaps should be allowed to have their own personal laws</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">While the blogger bestowed upon the &#8216;minority&#8217; muslim population the right to decide how society should be, she refuses to extend to the majority even the privileges that are given to such &#8216;minorities&#8217;, lest it be &#8216;kindergartenish&#8217;. This is the convoluted conception of &#8217;equality&#8217; in &#8216;modern&#8217; times. </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>If in future, as Madhu writes, Khap Panchayats will give freedom to any couple that wants to get married under the Special Marriage Act, then where is that freedom now? Why the demand for amendment in the Hindu Marriage Act (HMA) ? An individual would like to use the Special Marriage Act to get married to the person of his/her choice IF there are certain obstacles in the way . But to FIRST CREATE an obstacle(the proposed amendment) and THEN say that oh! you have the Special Marriage Act for your benefit??? Absurd in the extreme!&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The proposed amendment in Hindu Marriage Act is required to legitimize the existing, accepted, norm in Jat society of Haryana. Those who want to opt out of those norms are free to do so using Special Marriage Act. Only, they will then be opting to forgo ties with the community. The proposed amendment is necessary to protect the community from  any future claims made by such people upon inheritance or relationship.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>After all, the whole issue is about</em> <em>choice. Two individuals want to get married to each other and the khap panchayats citing age old tradition don’t allow them to do so.&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Choice making is not the sole right of those two individuals. The people who remain in the community also have  the right to choose whether they want people who violate their norms to remain in their midst.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>So the couple escapes(or tries to) and is killed before or after getting married. Depends on when the Khap panchayats catch hold of them. And it is named ‘Honour’ killing . Just exactly whose ‘honour’ it is, is yet to be determined.</em>&#8220;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em>Khap</em> is not limited to the people who did the murder, or the people who instigated that murder. There are numerous <em>khaps</em> all over Haryana, Rajasthan and UP. To use one off incident to tarnish the entire people is absolutely incorrect and unjustified.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">This type of focusing on one incident committed by few individuals and to denounce the entire community for that incident is typical behaviour of &#8216;intellectuals&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">They deliberately refuse to see that &#8216;hindus&#8217; are not limited to the people who pushed widows into a funeral pyre. They are not just the people who burned &#8216;dalits&#8217;. Not just the people who brought down a dilapidated structure built over a temple in Ayodhya, not just the people who were convicted for riots in Gujarat. Focusing on only these acts and to label &#8216;hindus&#8217; accordingly is the proclivity of present day &#8216;intellectuals&#8217; and &#8216;media personalities&#8217;. Interestingly they reverse the process when &#8216;minorities&#8217; are involved, while they focus on the few bad apples among what they call &#8216;majority&#8217; community, they overlook the overwhelmingly numerous bad apples of &#8216;minority&#8217; community produced by a polluting theology. Then they ascribe terrorist acts by muslims and christians as &#8216;reaction againt the fascist oppression by hindus&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">This behaviour may be traced partly to the fear instilled in some sections of society by past tyrants like Aurangazeb  and their present day successors who vociferously and sometimes physically assault critics, and partly due to the macaulayite indoctrination imposed by british, euphemistically called &#8216;education&#8217;, that indoctrinates people that they and their culture are worthless. So between the likes of Aurangazeb, Macaulay and their successors, the &#8216;intelligensia&#8217; finds relief in self-flagellation and attempts to portray themselves as &#8216;modern&#8217; and to condemn every practice of their ancient culture as &#8216;medieval&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><em>&#8220;</em><em>So khap panchayats that don’t allow two individuals to get married now will ‘allow’ or ‘give the choice’ to their sons and daughters to do so in the future? After the amendment? Apparently Ms Kishwar thinks so. She seems to think that once the amendment is made, Khap Panchayats will undergo a change of heart and will agree like little kittens to any wish of their children to marry within gotra. And that they will lose their bloodthirsty tendency</em>. <em>If according to Ms Kishwar, Clan or family members of such rebels have the right to disown and disinherit such persons but cannot be given the right to hound them to death, then why are the clan members not already doing so ? They need an amendment to change their heart? But wait! The proposed amendment is EXACTLY what the khap Panchayats want so WHY would they become all docile AFTER their wish has been granted???&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The amendment, as said before, will protect the <em>khap</em> community and its properties from any lawful claims upon it with regard to inheritance or relationship by people who do not conform to its laws. </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The mention of &#8216;docility&#8217; indirectly points to the crux of the issue. It is the stand taken by <em>khaps</em> claiming the right to decide for themselves, the right to independent thought, the right to continue their traditions, that is troubling the blogger.<br />
Those who have surrendered their rights to independent opinion to &#8216;intellectuals&#8217; and  media personalities feel agitated to see people they consider as &#8216;uneducated&#8217; claiming that right. They want to teach their &#8216;inferiors&#8217; a lesson in &#8216;modernity&#8217;. They feel insecure to find Madhu Kishwar championing such cause.<br />
They want <em>khap</em> to be docile like they themselves are, to the overbearing self appointed &#8216;reformers&#8217;, who are in turn docile followers of their western overlords and paymasters.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Insinuating &#8216;bloodthirstiness&#8217; on <em>khap</em> is similar to the way native americans were caricatured in that manner before exterminating them and grabbing their lands.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The last question in the quote above expresses their subconscious fear that <em>khap</em> may not become docile even in the future, and therefore need to be stifled, gagged, labelled and exterminated right now, in a pattern similar to how independent aspirations of native people were subjugated or subverted by colonialists in the past to prevent any possibility of rebellion or insubordination.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>There are many communities that are still outside that all important sphere called education and are still stuck in a medieval mindset. So are they to be allowed to do what they want?&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The &#8216;all important sphere of education&#8217;! The same that converted these people into coconuts (as defined by Richard Crasta in &#8216;Impressing the Whites&#8217;) and brown sahibas and sepoys, that which makes them members of the club of &#8216;modern&#8217; and &#8216;progressives&#8217;! How can these people allow those who do not belong to this club to do what they want ? Only club members have decision making powers. Like in the &#8216;good&#8217; old colonial days- (traditional)indians and dogs not allowed in the club.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><em> &#8221;There are many communities that are holding on to certain questionable practices even now</em>.<em> If one extends Ms Kishwar’s arguments regarding ‘preservation of tradition’ vis a vis the khap panchayats to other ‘traditions’ of other communities as well then where will it lead us</em>?&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Any practice that is not sanctioned by the high divas of modernity is of course &#8216;questionable&#8217; and condemnable! Everybody should owe allegience to the god of &#8216;modernity&#8217; that these people are believers of, all non-believers are denied right to existence like in those medieval times that these people ironically claims to condemn. </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">India, by reviving its valuable traditions would gain self-respect, be able to function on its own terms, having its own concepts, devolving power to local units, allowing diversity of thought and practices in democratic manner- like how it was before the marauders from west came here with their monotheistic mandrax. But if that happens, these &#8216;progressives&#8217; and their god of &#8216;modernity&#8217; would be rendered powerless. That agitates their minds.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>Where does one draw the line in giving communities the power to choose which traditions they want to keep and which ones they want to discard? Those youngsters who are dying for simply making a choice are also a part of this very same community right</em>?&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Devolving power, giving independence of thought to others, is anathema to followers of monotheistic religions. It is this fear that motivates the blogger to think of drawing lines to keep others confined within.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Citing one example of &#8216;dying youngsters&#8217; is a rehash of the tactic used by colonialists and missionaries to caricature natives as imbeciles, unable to think and act for themselves and needing the guidance from their &#8216;masters&#8217;, based on select incidents.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><em>&#8220;HOW will these communities EVER come out of the old mindset? When will they advance on the path to progressive thinking? A vicious circle again?</em> &#8220;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The plaintive cry apparently is- When will these communities join my club, and stop becoming a threat to my religion of &#8216;modernity&#8217; and &#8216;progressiveness&#8217; ?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>As a commentor writes in response to Ms Kishwar’s column, &#8216;For, the constitution not only lays down the framework of governance, but also expects the state to perform a pivotal role while facilitating Indian society’s forward movement towards meaningful social change&#8217;&#8221;</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The man made document &#8216;Constitution&#8217; is now being attempted to be used to justify depriving the rights of individual communities using state power, much in the same manner claims in bible were used to justify colonialism at one time.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><em>&#8216;And sometimes scattered young voices calling out for change and dying for it speak more loudly than that of a collective Khap Panchayat</em>.<em> But only to those who want to hear</em>.&#8217;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Drama is a favorite of these &#8216;modernists&#8217;. They instictively slip into that mode. These people straining to hear the scattered voices of &#8216;dying youths&#8217; are of course STONE DEAF to the cries of the majority. After all, they are indoctrinated to consider that only &#8216;minorities&#8217; have rights!</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">&#8220;<em>Madhu Kishwar’s arguments are shaky at best</em>. <em>If there is a more logical presentation of facts one might feel compelled to listen. Not so the case here.</em>&#8220;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The arguments put forth by the blogger are shameful at best, being mere copies of western colonial propaganda, duplicitous and  subversive otherwise. </p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The blogger&#8217;s critique of Madhu Kishwar comes across as more of an instinctive reponse rather than a studied one, for if she had cared to study <em>khaps</em>, she may realize that it is a democratic system, actually much more beneficial than the centralised government that we have now. Instead she seems to have merely followed the line laid out by &#8216;intelligensia&#8217; and media.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">What is instructive is the way this instinctive response of a person whose thinking is obviously moulded by english language newspapers and TV channels reveals uncanny resemblance to colonial ideas.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">It reveals the depth to which colonial thought has penetrated &#8216;english speaking society&#8217; of &#8216;modern progressives&#8217;, a society composed of &#8216;coconuts&#8217;, brown sahibas and other sepoys of western empire.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">When will these people gain independence from their colonial mindsets ? Do they even seek it, or are they like the Uncle Toms and house niggers of yore, content in their present state, having internalised the indoctrinations of present day colonialists, blind to the shackles on their mind and intellect, programmed to come out with responses such as these whenever any serious issue comes up.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The ongoing debate on <em>khap</em> is also a part of the debate over centralized, homogenized, globalized society that &#8216;modern&#8217; people attempts to create on the lines of monotheistic western thought as against the diversity respecting localized society that Indic culture fosters.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Elsewhere, on <em>khap</em>-</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"> <a href="http://psenthilraja.wordpress.com/2010/06/13/khap-democracy-and-vote-democracy-a-comparison/">http://psenthilraja.wordpress.com/2010/06/13/khap-democracy-and-vote-democracy-a-comparison/</a></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><a href="http://psenthilraja.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/khap-panchayat-demands-time-to-recognize-native-systems/">http://psenthilraja.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/khap-panchayat-demands-time-to-recognize-native-systems/</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gandhi: A True Sepoy In the book &#8220;Gandhi: A True Mahatma ?&#8220;, author Agneya unravels the extent to which Gandhi was influenced by british indoctrination and christian propaganda. Gandhi stands revealed as a christian in all but name- christian in the sense of a person who has internalised the propaganda spread by church that &#8217;suffering&#8217; and subservience to dogmas of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=incognitocomments.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12310077&amp;post=140&amp;subd=incognitocomments&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">In the book &#8220;<a title="x Agneya" href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/30729870/Gandhi-A-True-Mahatma-Complete" target="_blank">Gandhi: A True Mahatma ?</a>&#8220;, author Agneya unravels the extent to which Gandhi was influenced by british indoctrination and christian propaganda. Gandhi stands revealed as a christian in all but name- christian in the sense of a person who has internalised the propaganda spread by church that &#8217;suffering&#8217; and subservience to dogmas of New Testament is sole path to god&#8217;s blessings. He is also revealed as a person who is convinced about the superiority of the british and, by extension, as their being the rightful administrators over other people including Indians.  Having internalised church propaganda and convinced about superiority of british, he ventured to spread these ideas among indians,  surreptitiously, while taking the name of Sri Rama, Sri Krishna and in the pretext of being inspired by <em>bhagavad gita</em>, all of which are known to have powerful influence over indians. Gandhi is therefore revealed as a sepoy of the Western Empire, engaged in the act of converting his countrymen into subservient sepoys of empire like himself. Western Empire here refers to the aggrandizing empire building behaviour of the Romans that saw them conquering lands and enslaving people, which trait was displayed by the Church engaged in expanding and converting people into sheeps, by Islam plundering and enslaving people for the Caliphate, by various capitalists such as East India Companies and Hudson Bay Company looting other lands, paving way for colonialism, and by communists unleashing class war to usurp dictatorial power. This trait saw these people make use of any opportunity, be it religion, science, anthropology, history or linguistics, as tools for subjugating people, both physically and mentally. Their biggest victory is in converting other people into being their slaves, getting them to become a part of the empire, as a sepoy.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The usefulness of a sepoy is in his not being identified as a slave of the empire. Taking the name of Sri Rama, Sri Krishna and <em>bhagavad gita</em> helped Gandhi in maintaining the illusion of working in the interest of <em>bharatiya samskriti</em>. This then enabled him to play the role of spokesperson for India, thus furthering the interest of the empire.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The role played by Gandhi then provides lessons today regarding how subversion could be achieved intentionally or even subconsciously, how a person convinced that one particular path is the correct one- in Gandhi&#8217;s case, the path of suffering, assumedly shown by Jesus -then engages in converting people into becoming a part of the western empire.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">How many such people are there nowadays, influenced by the western propaganda, sepoys of the empire themselves,  perhaps unable to recognize themselves as such, yet enjoying the power and pelf provided by the empire, venture to become spokesperson or activist for the &#8216;native&#8217;, but inevitably foster the interest of the empire ?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Tools of the Empire</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In the course of history, western empire has used many tools for aggrandizement, viz., Roman imperialism, Catholic Church and its many offshoots, Islam, Capitalism, Colonialism, Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Racism, Nationalism etc. Today the western empire uses &#8216;capitalism&#8217; as its primary tool. This was the tool that was intrumental in bringing about colonialism through East India Company, Hudson Bay Company etc. It accords paramountcy to materials and provide unbridled avenue for expressing greed. The enormous damage that this tool wrecks on environment is unmatched. It also severely damages the mind of people, converting them into materialistic zombies, white collared and blue collared labourers, automations, who act on cues.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Modern Sepoys</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Many of the present day sepoys of the empire view the other tools as detrimental to &#8216;humanity&#8217; and capitalism as &#8216;harbringer of development and modernity&#8217;. These people are vociferous in their criticism of other tools, but are blind-sided to the enormous damage that capitalism wrecks on &#8216;humanity&#8217;. They are, like all converted people, unable to see alternatives beyond what they are indoctrinated. So they see as possible alternative only the other tools of the empire. When some of them recognize alternative in indigenous traditions, they are eager to make such alternatives part of the empire.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Even when they are seen as arguing against the empire, they are actually only working for the empire, to make space for the &#8216;others&#8217;- the indigenous group they belong to, in the empire, to consolidate the merger with the empire. Though, in their influenced state of mind some of them may not realise it is so, and some others merely try to convince themselves that such is the best course.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Possible examples of such behaviour- An eminent &#8216;hindu&#8217;, in his <a title="Non-Hindutva Hindu" href="http://rajivmalhotra.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=section&amp;layout=blog&amp;id=0&amp;Itemid=9" target="_blank">varied criticism </a>of the west consistently fails to identify or prosecute &#8216;capitalism&#8217;. A &#8216;nationalist hindu&#8217; <a title="Shadow Warrior" href="http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-upa-will-never-let-india-reach-its.html" target="_blank">feels disturbed</a> upon seeing criticism of capitalistic ideas and ventures to put up straw man arguments. An internet hindu interested in <a title="Internet Hindu" href="http://www.deeshaa.org/2010/04/30/the-end-of-work-an-essay-on-the-dawning-of-the-post-work-world/comment-page-1/#comment-153115" target="_blank">India&#8217;s development</a> considers &#8216;progress of civilization&#8217; on western terms.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Mutiny</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Sustainable future lie in not spreading the aggrandizing rapacious empire. It lies in seeing the true nature of this empire, the various tools that it uses to gain its ends, the way in which it develops or appropriates new tools as it comes up against opposition, its insatiable appetite and attachment to material objects. It lies in growing out of the indoctrinations inculturated by the empire, to view it critically and to prosecute it. It is also inevitably linked to realizing the true purpose of life and knowledge of self<em>, </em>the central objectives of <em>bharatiya samskriti</em>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blogger Reality Check is in despair&#8217; as he writes that the current measures by the government towards caste census does not ensure &#8216;social justice&#8217;. Yet implicit in his stance is the idea that reservations or  &#8216;positive discrimination&#8217; is justified. He writes- &#8220;We instantly see Dalits and some Tribes as rightful targets of positive discrimination and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=incognitocomments.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12310077&amp;post=121&amp;subd=incognitocomments&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">Blogger <a title="Caste Census : Social Justice or Communal Quota – select one." href="http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/caste-census-thoughts/" target="_blank">Reality Check</a> is in despair&#8217; as he writes that the current measures by the government towards caste census does not ensure &#8216;social justice&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Yet implicit in his stance is the idea that reservations or  &#8216;positive discrimination&#8217; is justified. He writes- &#8220;We instantly see Dalits and some Tribes as rightful targets of positive discrimination and some castes like Kshatriyas, Brahmins as those needing to take a hit.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">What is overlooked here is that parentage or even economic status does not necessarily justify or support &#8216;positive discrimination&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Point being, a person like Madhu Koda or &#8216;justice&#8217; Dinakaran or A Raja though from &#8216;lower caste&#8217; or &#8216;dalit&#8217;, have displayed inclination to misuse their positions to amass wealth. There are many such persons, regardless of caste or economic status, who display inclinations towards selfish aggrandizement. When such people, even coming from poor families, are placed in positions of power, however small or big, through policies of &#8216;positive discrimination&#8217;, the nation or society is injuring itself.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">While some people have inclinations towards selfish aggrandizement and have the tendency to misuse the positions they come to occupy, some others have inclinations to allow such people to have their way, to not acknowledge the crimes being committed. These second type of people, themselves fearful of indulging in rapacious corruption like the former, yet enjoy the spoils and crumbs that their positon throws up surreptitiously. These type of people also can be found in every economic strata and &#8216;caste&#8217; of society, often functioning as useful tools in the hands of the former type.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The idea of using &#8216;caste&#8217; or economic status as any criteria to obtain &#8216;social justice&#8217; or &#8216;societal equality&#8217; is flawed, chimeric and delusional because it in no way provides for preventing the people such as mentioned above from occupying positions of power. In fact, not having such a criteria of &#8216;caste&#8217; or &#8216;economic status&#8217; by itself is also not guaranteer of health of society.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Therefore &#8216;positive discrimination&#8217; should be there. Only to bring in people with strength of character and moral and ethical values, from all strata of society, into all positions in society, high as well as low.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In the absence of this criteria, it does not matter if all positions of power are given to people of a particular &#8216;caste&#8217; or &#8216;religion&#8217; or it is left as a free-for-all, because, there is equal chance of good people coming to occupy positions of power in either case. So without reservation you may have an MMS in chair with an A R who steals in percentage of GDP and a saintess of foreign origin deciding who will become President, CEC and everything of import. With reservation you may have a Maya in chair who may or may not match up to AR&#8217;s capacity in loot. Either ways, without the correct criteria for  choosing people to positions of responsibility, there is only a random chance of the correct thing happening, a very random chance. Such tendencies, towards aggrandizement or passivity in the face of aggrandizement, are not genetically transmitted; neither are abilities, talents and inclinations, nor sense of rightness.  These qualities are also not defined by the gender of a person, or by his/her economic condition, people possessing these qualities being found in every economic strata or &#8216;caste&#8217; of society regardless of gender. Therefore any categorisation based on parentage, &#8216;caste&#8217;, gender, or even economic conditions, is insubstantial and delusionary.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Western influence cause people to forgo considerations of rightness, and instead, to view people in terms of  &#8216;community&#8217;, &#8216;religion&#8217;, &#8216;caste&#8217;, &#8216;economic strata&#8217;, &#8216;gender&#8217;, to consider these fabricated labels as real, defining them and others, and to be deluded by the notion that &#8216;equalising&#8217; these chimeric labels is necessary or even contributory  for sustenance of society.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Institutions and systems built upon such western thought and ideas naturally fail to produce the right results, yet, the deluded expect such institutions and systems, and the people appointed in such systems, to deliver justice.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">It may be necessary to do reality check on the conceptions of the mind influenced by western thought and the system of indoctrination deceptively called &#8216;education&#8217;.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Astounding feat. Wading into the intolerable drivel called CWMG requires tremendous courage and tenacity. To suffer that bs, yet think logically and clearly, and to bring out a wealth of information that has the potential to de-brainwash and inform millions of people is an astounding feat. In these times, it is like almost a bhageeratha prayatna. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=incognitocomments.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12310077&amp;post=116&amp;subd=incognitocomments&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">Astounding feat.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Wading into the intolerable drivel called <a title="Collected Works of M K Gandhi" href="www.gandhiserve.org/cwmg/cwmg.html" target="_blank">CWMG</a> requires tremendous courage and tenacity. To suffer that bs, yet think logically and clearly, and to bring out a wealth of information that has the potential to de-brainwash and inform millions of people is an astounding feat.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In these times, it is like almost a <em>bhageeratha prayatna.</em></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Agneya does that here &#8211; <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/30729870/Gandhi-A-True-Mahatma-Complete">http://www.scribd.com/doc/30729870/Gandhi-A-True-Mahatma-Complete</a> , as he analyses Gandhi, based on CWMG and related materials.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">He refers <em>itihasas</em>, <em>puranas</em> and the <em>vedas</em>, as well as Koran, Hadiths and Bible to bring out the roots of the imaginations and the inconsistencies that pervade Gandhi&#8217;s work.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">He recognizes Gandhi as a <em>tamasic</em> person, completely under the  influence of church propaganda- considering dogmatic piety, self-flagellation and suffering alone as pathways to reaching god. Gandhi is also revealed as submissive towards &#8216;allah&#8217; and Koran. In fact, considering Gandhi&#8217;s efforts to blackmail &#8216;hindus&#8217; into inaction in the face of muslim aggression during the time of partition, Gandhi could also be considered to have indirectly followed the koranic call of destroying kaffirs. Thus Gandhi&#8217;s claim to have been a true muslim may be true in more ways than one.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In this excellent book, to nitpick, there is one small error when the author says at page 151, &#8220;The social activism he (Gandhi) practiced in South Africa, with its focus on <em>ahimsa</em> and literary critiques of government policy, in reality contained qualities belonging more to the <em>brahmana</em> than the <em>kshatriya</em>&#8220;. Not true. <em>brahmana</em> is inclined towards realisation of <em>brahma.</em> Gandhi was inclined towards obtaining the halo of a suffering-celebrity-martyr, similar to how church portrays Jesus. Such tendency, to be influenced by an image and to desire to shape oneself in such image, is characteristic of <em>sudra.</em> It is born of a <em>tamasic</em> predisposition, which the author correctly discerns in Gandhi. Further, <a title="Gandhian Ahimsa" href="http://estheppan.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/gandhian-ahimsa/" target="_blank">Gandhi&#8217;s <em>ahimsa</em></a> was different from the <em>ahimsa</em> that  <em>bharatiya darshanas</em> advocate, it was actually <em>himsa</em> as the author identifies in page 131.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In this book the author also touches upon the non-literal meaning of the <em>vedas</em>, which most west-educated &#8216;indologists&#8217; fail to comprehend. In many places the author also discusses concepts of <em>bharatiya samskriti</em> in lucid yet profound manner, benefiting the reader in multiple ways.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Just as the waters of <em>ganga</em> brought by Bhageeratha&#8217;s <em>prayatna</em> liberated his anscestors, the wisdom contained in this book through Agneya&#8217;s <em>prayatna</em> has the potential to liberate many indians from the <em>tamas</em> of gandhian-western influence.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">One of the best books ever.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rajiv Malhotra&#8217;s article “Can Hindus Self-Govern Competitively? Lessons from the Nithyananda Scandal” was criticized in the previous blog  for its adharmikata  and indiscriminate admiration of &#8216;church&#8217;. It was also noted that the object of any study affects the student in subtle ways and that this may explain the considerable influence of &#8216;church&#8217; in Malhotra&#8217;s positions, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=incognitocomments.wordpress.com&amp;blog=12310077&amp;post=94&amp;subd=incognitocomments&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">Rajiv Malhotra&#8217;s article “Can Hindus Self-Govern Competitively? Lessons from the Nithyananda Scandal” was <a title="Untouchables" href="http://incognitocomments.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/untouchables/" target="_blank">criticized in the previous blog</a>  for its <em>adharmikata</em>  and indiscriminate admiration of &#8216;church&#8217;. It was also noted that the object of any study affects the student in subtle ways and that this may explain the considerable influence of &#8216;church&#8217; in Malhotra&#8217;s positions, which, as per his article, has been the object of his study for over a decade.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The <a title="Comments " href="http://incognitocomments.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/untouchables/#comment-41" target="_blank">subsequent comments</a> received on that blog reveals that intolerance to criticism, a hallmark of &#8216;church&#8217;, has been faithfully imbibed by the student alongwith other tools of subterfuge.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Instead of focusing on the <em>adharmik</em> positions he had taken in his article and introspecting, Malhotra starts off by questioning whether his critic wants to abandon what he ingeniously terms &#8216;tradition&#8217;, referring to <em>purva-paksha</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><em>purva-paksha</em> has been explained in simple terms by a commenter Divya at unrelated discussions elsewhere on the web in the following manner-</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“There was also an important concept of <em>purva-paksha</em> or studying your opponents viewpoint thoroughly before engaging in debate and thus the level of debates was very sophisticated.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">“About <em>purva-paksha</em>. This is a tool used within the various indigenous <em>darshanas</em>. While I seriously recommend that all hindus try and understand the nature of xtianity and islam, I also hold that no argument or debate is possible between the indic traditions and the abrahamic traditions since they are faith-based. How can you possibly argue with a claim that God made the world and this is true because the Bible says so and the Bible is the word of God? So I’m delighted that you remembered the point about <em>purva-paksha</em>, but it is applicable only within the indic traditions since a dialog with faith-based traditions is sterile from the indic point of view. The other point about <em>purva-paksha</em> to note is that this tool was employed with the purpose of winning a debate. If you are interested in <em>purva-paksha</em> it will only serve your purpose if you tackle the solid points of the philosophy and not just go looking around for stuff to ridicule.”</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In short, <em>purva-paksha</em> is the arguments from the opposing side that a debater puts forth, which he then refutes using reasoning to consolidate his position.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Malhotra attempts some skillful jugglery to suggest that (a) his study of &#8216;church&#8217; is for <em>purva-paksha</em>, (b) that by disparaging his study his critics may be going against traditions and (c) that his study is the sole means by which a proper response can be made to &#8216;church&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Citing some &#8216;authority&#8217; to justify their mis-deeds is a frequent technique of church people. The student here emulates his teacher, attempting to use &#8216;tradition&#8217; as the authority, to justify his study of &#8216;church&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">What he fails to note is that whatever means he uses to justify his pursuit, the fact that he is considerably influenced by the church system, his object of study, evident in his article, cannot be wished away. That is the reality he has to face and remedy, which he fails to do when he instead chooses to launch attack on critics.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The study of the &#8216;other&#8217; may be useful. What needs to be kept in mind is that at the end of it the student should not be so influenced that he loses his sense of <em>dharma</em>.<br />
Guidance or monitoring by somebody who is not directly involved in the study may be necessary whenever such endeavours are undertaken, in order to forestall adverse results.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Further, at the end of it the student must let go of the others&#8217; tools, methods and perspectives that he may have adopted during his study, in order to gain back <em>dharmic</em> perspective.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">While the study of church system may increase knowledge of the student, the contention that it would help in doing <em>purva-paksha</em> of church position is contestable, because the church is built upon false claims to being the sole representative of one &#8216;almighty&#8217; &#8216;god&#8217;. All their positions, floating on this lie, are chimeric and meant to mislead. Effective <em>purva-paksha</em> is not possible with such illusory positions.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Putting up straw man arguments and countering them is a deplorable tactic that the &#8216;learned student&#8217; indulges in as he condemn what he calls &#8216;closed minded Indians, who have very little understanding of the external world discourse other than pop culture and superficial ideas heard through casual contact – from barber shops to TV news to desi parties&#8217;. He mentions what some such &#8216;supposed intellectuals&#8217; had &#8216;felt&#8217; regarding the study of others when he raised the matter at an event in Delhi. The learned student&#8217;s depreciatory efforts in that direction turns out to be a poor parody of <em>purva-paksha</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Specific lines from Shri Malhotra&#8217;s article were cited in the previous blog to substantiate the conclusions there. Yet he refused to consider them and repeatedly asked for further &#8216;proof&#8217; for the conclusions. Pakistan too asks for &#8216;proof&#8217; perennially from India for their complicity in terrorist acts.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">He also displayed deficiency in discernment by equating <em>purva-paksha</em> with competitor analysis that US and Al Qaeda does on each other and that companies do in the market. This tendency to relate totally different concepts to make fanciful connnections is peculiar to west-inspired &#8216;intellectuals&#8217;, who have been known to equate <em>brahma</em> and <em>ishwara</em> to the christian concept of &#8216;god&#8217;. This is similar to the mistake made by the blind men who concluded variously that elephant is like a rope, wall, tree, snake, fan and so on, depending on which body part of the elephant they put their hands on. This tendency also motivates some people to seek a counterpart for western concept &#8216;religion&#8217;, such as christianity, in <em>bharatiya samskriti</em>; and failing to find any, they create something called &#8216;hinduism&#8217; which they then go on to consider as substantial, indigenous, authentic and representing <em>bharatiya samskriti</em>. Some of these people then go on to organize a stucture &#8216;Hindu Acharya Sabha&#8217; which is then expected to pontificate and herd its hindu sheep like its source of inspiration-the popes of church. Deracination and western influence seems directly proportional.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Yet another western influence that Malhotra displayed in his comments is an apparent obsession with physical identity and unduly high opinion of himself. He feels that his critics may have complexes that manifest in jealousy towards him because he is doing things they aren&#8217;t. He also thinks that they may be disgruntled because he does not give them importance and that is why they criticise him- to gain a sense of self importance. This assumption leads him to overlook the merit of the criticism and to seek the identity of the critic in order to justify his imaginative reasonings. It also prevents him from understanding that the criticism is of his position more than of his person.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">He also displays, by repeating the same questions/aspersions in different comments, the western approach of demanding answers in the format they are comfortable with or reducing the answers to force fit their limited perspective. Similar to the <em>kupa manduka</em> who demanded that the vastness of ocean be demonstrated within the limited space of his well.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Launching proxies and introducing false fronts to harass and gain more knowledge of opponents and to wear them down through attrition are well known techniques of war that church people have mastered and employed through the centuries. Malhotra also shows that he has learnt those lessons well by making use of apparent acolytes who come in the guise of a &#8216;desi&#8217; who seems to be more videsh-influenced and a &#8216;Ms Jain&#8217; who is obviously a dig at Sandhya Jain, editor of <a href="http://www.vijayvaani.com">www.vijayvaani.com</a>.<br />
Since &#8216;Ms Jain&#8217; has made the appearance, it is assumed that &#8217;Ms Rajan&#8217; is not far behind!</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The <a title="Comment" href="http://incognitocomments.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/untouchables/#comment-56" target="_blank">commenter Karigar</a> then attempted to box in and label everybody for easy reference. So Malhotra got &#8216;pragmatic realism&#8217; and other &#8216;claimants of Hindu intellectual leadership today&#8217; got &#8216;idealism&#8217;. In the process he forgot that bharatiya samskriti has always chosen <em>dharma</em> over &#8216;pragmatism&#8217;/ &#8216;realism&#8217;/ &#8216;idealism&#8217; or any other boxed in &#8216;-ism&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Thereafter he &#8216;identified&#8217; the &#8216;flaw&#8217; that caused &#8216;foreign domination&#8217; over India &#8216;twice&#8217;, which, as per the unanimous view of all &#8216;historians&#8217; is due to &#8220;ignoring the developments in the rest of the world, being so wrapped up in their own sense of inviolable superiority&#8221;!<br />
Having thus identified the &#8216;flaw&#8217; he also appropriated the authority to preach to the &#8216;flawed&#8217; people. He solemnly advises- &#8220;Ideals are one thing, and reality is another&#8221;.<br />
This <em>videsh</em> residing desi thus took up the &#8216;white man&#8217;s burden&#8217; of educating his country cousins. <em>&#8216;anpad gawar</em> desis&#8217; who may consider <em>brahma</em> as reality and everything else as another thing has a lot to learn from this &#8216;learned person&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Karigar&#8217;s complete faith in intellectual honesty of &#8216;his-storyians&#8217; is commendable. Curiously though, he does not entertain similar notions about the intellectual ability of his desi country men.<br />
He may like to console the everyday victims of terrorist brutality in India by explaining to the victims that they were victimised because they &#8216;ignored the developments in the rest of the world, being so wrapped up in their own sense of inviolable superiority&#8217;, not because the terrorist happened to be a ruthless, inhuman, barbarian with an AK-47 influenced by a west created system of insatiable self-aggrandizement. Here Karigar plumbs the depths that marxist apologists go to come up with excuse for inhuman acts of barbaric brutes.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">He then observes that the &#8216;whole social / legal / political system in India today is based on western systems&#8217;, tilted in church&#8217;s favour, and that the way forward is to adopt church&#8217;s way of functioning. Now, that is telling the patient- &#8220;your disease is incurable, give up all hope of getting well and learn to live with your disease, come back for check up next week and pay the bill&#8221;.<br />
Karigar fails to note that Indians have been following this exact &#8216;prescription&#8217; for centuries now, adapting to &#8216;changing realities&#8217; and &#8216;power structures&#8217; created by <em>adharmik</em> people. It is precisely these &#8216;adaptions&#8217;, discarding <em>dharmik</em> considerations that have brought them to the depths of deracination seen today. Any further regress in the same direction will only make them lose whatever little sense of <em>dharma</em> they hold now. Inability to distinguish between right and wrong means only that their power of discrimination is hampered- unrighteousness will still remain unrighteousness, it will never form sufficient excuse for swapping right and wrong.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Before concluding Karigar makes yet another preposterous statement that to criticize Malhotra is to betray (a) lack of confidence in the strength of hindu thought itself, and (b) shows a certain preconceived ‘guilty as charged’ mindset before assembling theories to prove the charge&#8221;.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Summing Up</span></strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Freedom to criticise should not be stifled.<br />
Shri Malhotra, who has in the past extensively, and correctly too, questioned the western hegemony in academic discourse, their cartelization tendencies and penchant to use power to impose their view on others, would be doing the correct thing if he takes criticism against his own positions wholeheartedly.<br />
It is not the identity of the critic that should qualify the criticism, it should be its merit alone.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">During the encounter with <em>chandala</em>, Adi Shankaracharya recognised the import of <em>chandala&#8217;s</em> words and accorded deserving respect regardless of physical identity.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">There is the well known episode of Sri Ganesha winning a contest with his brother Sri Karthikeya by circumambulating their parents which is considered equivalent to going around the world. The point is that, study of your own culture and traditions, represented as parents in that narrative, is superior to study of the world.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Further, in <em>chandokya upanishad, </em>there is the story of Uddalaka who asks his son Swetaketu, who has just returned from a long period of study, whether he knows That by knowing which everything is known. Swetaketu answers in the negative and later goes on to learn about That from his parent.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">To answer Malhotra&#8217;s question in the title of his article, self-governance is possible only by discerning <em>dharma</em> and upholding it, never by emulating <em>adharmis</em>. Discovering ourselves, taking guidance from our <em>samskriti,</em> is the way forward.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;"><em> namaste </em>and <em>dhanyavaad</em></p>
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